Open Letter To Coast: Please Send Producer Tom Danheiser To A Training Seminar
It's sad, really. Just pathetic. Instead of letting go of the past, one of the producers of Coast To Coast has decided to pick a scab for reasons unknown. It's so completely odd that he'd be picking a fight with me like this that I cannot hold George Noory or Lisa Lyons or anyone on Coast accountable for the suspect behavior I am about to present to you.
I would call for Tom's resignation or firing, if this is common behavior for him, except that I don't enjoy messing with peoples' livelihoods no matter how prickish. So I'm calling for him to get some Total Quality Management training. This is NOT what producers of radio shows do, Tom. It's just not. What am I talking about? Behold the email exchange we've created since last Thursday. Keep in mind I've not heard from the Coasters since I was on their show 3 months ago. This is completely out of the blue, as the saying goes.
I've not edited any of this so please enjoy what I believe are the bullying tactis of one Tom Danheiser. And they go something like this....
TOM TO JEREMY
Hope you are well. I have been waiting as I heard you were going to print an apology for an update you wrote on 6/19/07.
I would be happy to discuss with you and correct some obvious incorrect statements.
Please feel free to call me.
Thanks,
Tom Danheiser
Associate Producer
Coast To Coast AM, Talk Operations
Premiere Radio Networks
JEREMY RESPONDS
Hi, Tom:
I did revise the post with new feelings on the subject of how there may have been confusion trying to give the benefit of the doubt to Team Noory. As far as an apology goes, you heard wrong. In fact I don't know what it is you think I would be apologizing for exactly. I'd say "you guys owe me an apology for keeping me on the phone for an hour on mute before unceremoniously disconnecting me after I set up a 3-guest show for you" but, frankly, that was months ago and life goes on. In fact I'm surprised to hear from you.
I'm heading to the X-Conference shortly so I won't be able to chat until after this weekend. If you're still peeved and/or want me to correct anything, please read the revised post, which is here:
http://blog.valiens.com/2007/06/15/i-was-kicked-off-coast.aspx
And if you feel like writing me your corrections go ahead. If you'd rather chat on the phone we can do so after the weekend. If you want to let bygones be bygones, that's fine too.
Take Care,
--jeremy
TOM RESPONDS
No one is peeved. And by the way, it is not possible to put a guest on mute so I am not sure what you are talking about. Anyway, everything was more than Merited. Also, not sure why you are surprised to hear from me when your text indicated that you wondered why you were not contacted by the producers. I guess I figured the apology would be for all the in accurate info and for letting non credible people (such as Dixie) spout out against the show. By the way, George granted Dixie an interview that was 3 times the normal time so you can see why she would want to spew hate
Anyway, you have my numbers
JEREMY RESPONDS
Hi, Tom:
On mute - meaning that when I tried to ask Hopkins some questions nobody could hear me though I heard them perfectly.
Surprised because it's been 3 months so...Why do you care 3 months later? (And I don't mean that flippantly. I mean that's what's confusing to me.)
Show me the inaccurate info.
As far as people posting comments who may or may not be credible, I don't know them. So when you say "letting non credible people" spout against the show, I don't know their backgrounds/history/grudges with the show. As far as I know the comments page is open and fans of Coast (or whoever) can comment how they see fit. If they post "Jer, you're out of line; Noory's a sweetheart, you're a fraud" that's what shows up. If they say the opposite, that's what shows up. I didn't know there were people (Dixie) who had particular bad blood with the show. In fact I've not met many people in ufology until just this year so I'm ignorant of most of the infighting and various other issues that go on. I'm not "letting" people speak knowing that they have a vendetta.
Just curious: Why would Dixie have a vendetta against George if she was granted a long interview? Seems like that would benefit her, no?
Ciao,
jer
TOM RESPONDS
I will indeed tear apart your inaccurate info and get back to you. Like you say, Life does go on; however,non truths should not.
You hinted at getting an apology..................for what? A bad interviewee?
You talk about a pre-occupied host and a half assed interview...............George and this show are not number one for
nothing. 3 million listeners at any given time cannot be wrong.
Maybe you should discuss things with a Producer before writing what amounts to inaccuracies about a clearly number 1 show.
Just a thought.
Thanks,
Tom Danheiser
Associate Producer
Coast To Coast AM, Talk Operations
Premiere Radio Networks
JEREMY RESPONDS
"I will indeed tear apart your inaccurate info and get back to you. Like you say, Life does go on; however,non truths should not."
Fair enough. And I will post the retraction in my blog when you do.
"You hinted at getting an apology..................for what? A bad interviewee?"
You're right. I suck. Which is why I've been on about a hundred radio shows (including as a repeat guest) and a couple of TV shows. Which is why I'm hosting 2 podcasts. Which is why I get high-caliber guests. Which is why...oh never mind. What you have to ask yourself, Tom, is, 'Do I have a host who can roll with the punches and turn even a lousy
guest into great radio or not?' Being a radio producer I'm confident you know this.
"You talk about a pre-occupied host and a half assed interview...............George and this show are not number one for
nothing. 3 million listeners at any given time cannot be wrong."
That's right. They aren't number one for nothing. They are number one because they inherited the legacy of Art Bell, because there's no other show like it on major radio (so you've got a monopoly there) and because many people do love Noory. Sure he's got talent. SAFE talent. So does Jay Leno, that doesn't make him a great comedian.
But Tom, this leads to an interesting--and really the only--question: WHY ARE YOU EMAILING ME? Coast To Coast is a radio empire and I'm a peon in the crowd? Why do you care? Is the empire toppling? Have you rested on your "We're number one for a reason" laurels for just a bit too long? Do you sense it? Do you feel the sea change coming? Is that what this is about? Because we both know you didn't email me expecting an apology for a blog written 3 months ago.
"Maybe you should discuss things with a Producer before writing what amounts to inaccuracies about a clearly number 1 show."
Well, Producer with a capital P, maybe you should grow up and act like a "clearly number 1 show." Show me the inaccuracies, Mr. #1. Shit or get off the pot. Actually, just get off the pot. Does Noory even know you're writing me? Does he feel threatened by me or is it just you?
I really don't get where you're coming from with this way-too-late-to-be-relevant exchange but I'll tell ya: I don't exactly have a soft spot in my heart for arrogance (except my own, of course.)
You have my number too, Tom. And if you honestly wanted to talk you would have called, not sent this little power trip of an email telling me I should call you. That type of stuff is OVER. If attending the X-Conference has taught me anything it's that there is a new breed entering the field: that of the skeptical well-spoken experiencer. We're
not on the main stage and don't want to be because it's filled with a circus act that has provided nothing but dumbed-down show for decades. So we're building our own stage. This means that the number one show is
irrelevant to us because it is, on the whole, irrelevant PERIOD. So I won't be groveling for another shot at the Almighty Oz.
I hold no animosity toward Noory. If I ever see him in public I'll say hello. I don't hold him responsible for this email exchange.
This correspondence is over. Send me the corrections and I'll redact. Until then, you'll have to stew in your insecurities all by your lonesome.
Ciao,
Jeremy
TOM RESPONDS
Not bad but not impressive enough to make a number one show I guess. Lol
JEREMY RESPONDS
Kinda harsh for a Worker In The Light, Tom. By the way, ask George from which direction the light is shining and how hot it feels. If it's true that he has written into his speaking contract that water be served to him a certain temperature, I'm guessing the request is for ice water, no?
--j
TOM RESPONDS
That is untrue. You should check your sources more carefully. Please stop sending me e mails that have no truth in them whatsoever. Please try to deal with what happened and move on. It is a tough thing to be a guest that can hold an audience; don't worry about it. I am sure you will do fine. Thank you for listening. No more e mails are needed.
JEREMY RESPONDS
Um...you emailed me. Idiot.
TOM RESPONDS
Ah name calling. So mature of you. Lol. I ask you to stop and still you crawl back. Practice holding an audience and then contact me. Lol
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And there you have it, folks. There's your #1 show. If this disgusts you, please write to anyone else over there at Coast and recommend they read this exchange and reprimand Tom accordingly. After all, he did not send me this from his private email, he sent it from his work email and is acting from his work title of "associate producer."
So essentially, this is what is representing your show, Mr. Noory. I may make some jokes and take jabs at you but I'm a wiseass and that's my function. You're a celebrity so you should be used to it. I assume you're unruffled and not asking Tom to goad me into an email war three months removed from a friggen radio interview. So ask yourself if this behavior represents Coast well or does it a disservice and act accordingly, please.
One final word to Tom: In future harassments, please don't play the maturity card and then follow that up with the acronym LOL. That just makes you look like a fucktard. Well...that and everything else.
Thanks!
I would call for Tom's resignation or firing, if this is common behavior for him, except that I don't enjoy messing with peoples' livelihoods no matter how prickish. So I'm calling for him to get some Total Quality Management training. This is NOT what producers of radio shows do, Tom. It's just not. What am I talking about? Behold the email exchange we've created since last Thursday. Keep in mind I've not heard from the Coasters since I was on their show 3 months ago. This is completely out of the blue, as the saying goes.
I've not edited any of this so please enjoy what I believe are the bullying tactis of one Tom Danheiser. And they go something like this....
TOM TO JEREMY
Hope you are well. I have been waiting as I heard you were going to print an apology for an update you wrote on 6/19/07.
I would be happy to discuss with you and correct some obvious incorrect statements.
Please feel free to call me.
Thanks,
Tom Danheiser
Associate Producer
Coast To Coast AM, Talk Operations
Premiere Radio Networks
JEREMY RESPONDS
Hi, Tom:
I did revise the post with new feelings on the subject of how there may have been confusion trying to give the benefit of the doubt to Team Noory. As far as an apology goes, you heard wrong. In fact I don't know what it is you think I would be apologizing for exactly. I'd say "you guys owe me an apology for keeping me on the phone for an hour on mute before unceremoniously disconnecting me after I set up a 3-guest show for you" but, frankly, that was months ago and life goes on. In fact I'm surprised to hear from you.
I'm heading to the X-Conference shortly so I won't be able to chat until after this weekend. If you're still peeved and/or want me to correct anything, please read the revised post, which is here:
http://blog.valiens.com/2007/06/15/i-was-kicked-off-coast.aspx
And if you feel like writing me your corrections go ahead. If you'd rather chat on the phone we can do so after the weekend. If you want to let bygones be bygones, that's fine too.
Take Care,
--jeremy
TOM RESPONDS
No one is peeved. And by the way, it is not possible to put a guest on mute so I am not sure what you are talking about. Anyway, everything was more than Merited. Also, not sure why you are surprised to hear from me when your text indicated that you wondered why you were not contacted by the producers. I guess I figured the apology would be for all the in accurate info and for letting non credible people (such as Dixie) spout out against the show. By the way, George granted Dixie an interview that was 3 times the normal time so you can see why she would want to spew hate
Anyway, you have my numbers
JEREMY RESPONDS
Hi, Tom:
On mute - meaning that when I tried to ask Hopkins some questions nobody could hear me though I heard them perfectly.
Surprised because it's been 3 months so...Why do you care 3 months later? (And I don't mean that flippantly. I mean that's what's confusing to me.)
Show me the inaccurate info.
As far as people posting comments who may or may not be credible, I don't know them. So when you say "letting non credible people" spout against the show, I don't know their backgrounds/history/grudges with the show. As far as I know the comments page is open and fans of Coast (or whoever) can comment how they see fit. If they post "Jer, you're out of line; Noory's a sweetheart, you're a fraud" that's what shows up. If they say the opposite, that's what shows up. I didn't know there were people (Dixie) who had particular bad blood with the show. In fact I've not met many people in ufology until just this year so I'm ignorant of most of the infighting and various other issues that go on. I'm not "letting" people speak knowing that they have a vendetta.
Just curious: Why would Dixie have a vendetta against George if she was granted a long interview? Seems like that would benefit her, no?
Ciao,
jer
TOM RESPONDS
I will indeed tear apart your inaccurate info and get back to you. Like you say, Life does go on; however,non truths should not.
You hinted at getting an apology..................for what? A bad interviewee?
You talk about a pre-occupied host and a half assed interview...............George and this show are not number one for
nothing. 3 million listeners at any given time cannot be wrong.
Maybe you should discuss things with a Producer before writing what amounts to inaccuracies about a clearly number 1 show.
Just a thought.
Thanks,
Tom Danheiser
Associate Producer
Coast To Coast AM, Talk Operations
Premiere Radio Networks
JEREMY RESPONDS
"I will indeed tear apart your inaccurate info and get back to you. Like you say, Life does go on; however,non truths should not."
Fair enough. And I will post the retraction in my blog when you do.
"You hinted at getting an apology..................for what? A bad interviewee?"
You're right. I suck. Which is why I've been on about a hundred radio shows (including as a repeat guest) and a couple of TV shows. Which is why I'm hosting 2 podcasts. Which is why I get high-caliber guests. Which is why...oh never mind. What you have to ask yourself, Tom, is, 'Do I have a host who can roll with the punches and turn even a lousy
guest into great radio or not?' Being a radio producer I'm confident you know this.
"You talk about a pre-occupied host and a half assed interview...............George and this show are not number one for
nothing. 3 million listeners at any given time cannot be wrong."
That's right. They aren't number one for nothing. They are number one because they inherited the legacy of Art Bell, because there's no other show like it on major radio (so you've got a monopoly there) and because many people do love Noory. Sure he's got talent. SAFE talent. So does Jay Leno, that doesn't make him a great comedian.
But Tom, this leads to an interesting--and really the only--question: WHY ARE YOU EMAILING ME? Coast To Coast is a radio empire and I'm a peon in the crowd? Why do you care? Is the empire toppling? Have you rested on your "We're number one for a reason" laurels for just a bit too long? Do you sense it? Do you feel the sea change coming? Is that what this is about? Because we both know you didn't email me expecting an apology for a blog written 3 months ago.
"Maybe you should discuss things with a Producer before writing what amounts to inaccuracies about a clearly number 1 show."
Well, Producer with a capital P, maybe you should grow up and act like a "clearly number 1 show." Show me the inaccuracies, Mr. #1. Shit or get off the pot. Actually, just get off the pot. Does Noory even know you're writing me? Does he feel threatened by me or is it just you?
I really don't get where you're coming from with this way-too-late-to-be-relevant exchange but I'll tell ya: I don't exactly have a soft spot in my heart for arrogance (except my own, of course.)
You have my number too, Tom. And if you honestly wanted to talk you would have called, not sent this little power trip of an email telling me I should call you. That type of stuff is OVER. If attending the X-Conference has taught me anything it's that there is a new breed entering the field: that of the skeptical well-spoken experiencer. We're
not on the main stage and don't want to be because it's filled with a circus act that has provided nothing but dumbed-down show for decades. So we're building our own stage. This means that the number one show is
irrelevant to us because it is, on the whole, irrelevant PERIOD. So I won't be groveling for another shot at the Almighty Oz.
I hold no animosity toward Noory. If I ever see him in public I'll say hello. I don't hold him responsible for this email exchange.
This correspondence is over. Send me the corrections and I'll redact. Until then, you'll have to stew in your insecurities all by your lonesome.
Ciao,
Jeremy
TOM RESPONDS
Not bad but not impressive enough to make a number one show I guess. Lol
JEREMY RESPONDS
Kinda harsh for a Worker In The Light, Tom. By the way, ask George from which direction the light is shining and how hot it feels. If it's true that he has written into his speaking contract that water be served to him a certain temperature, I'm guessing the request is for ice water, no?
--j
TOM RESPONDS
That is untrue. You should check your sources more carefully. Please stop sending me e mails that have no truth in them whatsoever. Please try to deal with what happened and move on. It is a tough thing to be a guest that can hold an audience; don't worry about it. I am sure you will do fine. Thank you for listening. No more e mails are needed.
JEREMY RESPONDS
Um...you emailed me. Idiot.
TOM RESPONDS
Ah name calling. So mature of you. Lol. I ask you to stop and still you crawl back. Practice holding an audience and then contact me. Lol
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And there you have it, folks. There's your #1 show. If this disgusts you, please write to anyone else over there at Coast and recommend they read this exchange and reprimand Tom accordingly. After all, he did not send me this from his private email, he sent it from his work email and is acting from his work title of "associate producer."
So essentially, this is what is representing your show, Mr. Noory. I may make some jokes and take jabs at you but I'm a wiseass and that's my function. You're a celebrity so you should be used to it. I assume you're unruffled and not asking Tom to goad me into an email war three months removed from a friggen radio interview. So ask yourself if this behavior represents Coast well or does it a disservice and act accordingly, please.
One final word to Tom: In future harassments, please don't play the maturity card and then follow that up with the acronym LOL. That just makes you look like a fucktard. Well...that and everything else.
Thanks!
Jermy.You are my hero(today anyway) This is so telling.He is number one because of the Bell inheritence.The whole net is buzzing with anti- Noory and he has the likes of ol Tom to thank.This is not a sophisticated organization,but a couple middle aged nasty used car salesmen who do not deserve to head this once wonderful show.I hope you are right about some new 'blood' entering the field.We are all sick of Noory and his monkey man
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Yeah, a middle aged used car salesman headed up by S-L-E-A-Z-Y Snoory.
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Why would you call him sleazy? He is an amazing person! Get a life!
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Take a deep breath OK? Maybe you ought to go back to your safe little pigeonhack zone. This is for the big boys and girls.
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There you go, the great powers of Toast to Toast have learned how to type Laugh Out Loud (Tom, it's LOL, all caps, take a class) - not bad, given the low-rent drivel that emits from that "show". Yes, they have the numbers, but as you've pointed out, Jeremy, they're coasting on the Art Bell rep and the fact that Clear Channel is their own private 800 pound baboon.
Tom, you see fit to have morons like the Billy Meier US rep on the show, but when he slanders me on your show, you somehow don't see fit to let me defend myself. It's not surprising - Noory can't seem to take the time to actually read any of the books that his guests write, I suppose that's why you need authors to send you lists of pre-cooked questions ahead of time, Noory's gotta save face and project the illusion of preparedness. It's not like he knows much about the field of the paranormal - hey, it's a gig, what should the audience expect? Your program has no problem spreading the nonsense of the CHAD images, along with bogus LMH interviews of "witnesses". That's OK, the kind of folks who listen to _my_ show know how to do field work, and the lovely posts on the Paracast forums showing that the location of the "photos" are not where the "witness" claimed they took them, are proof of the quality of our audience. We're like Apple - we don't have the market penetration of Toast to Toast, but our audience is of a higher caliber and quality. Be happy we're not on a major radio network - if George had to go against us on a level playing field - podcasting - we'd wipe the floor with him, and he knows it. That's why he won't let me come on your "show" and address the slanderous claims of the BM rep.
One day, you're going to have actual competition, and it'll be a blast to see how fast you lose that audience. Keep your eyes open, your numbers could change at the turn of a dime. The fact that you're harassing Jeremy MONTHS after he got shafted by you guys is more than a tad revealing.
And Jeremy, thanks for posting those fascinating emails. You're a cool cat, and we love having you on The Paracast, the show that actually talks about the paranormal, instead of Working in The Blight.
dB
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I would never have believed it if I hadn't read it myself! Is this Mr. Danheiser in mid-cognitive infarct or does he just have a bunch in his chubbies or something?
Does he address every little untoward comment and such directed at the "lair of the nighthawk"? He must be a busy man. Seriously I would have thought Mr. Noory was bigger than this.
This is what it means to be a "worker in the light"? What a crock!
He reminds me that pride goes before a fall and the irrelevant are usually oblivious to their own irrelevancy.
I don't have a good feeling about Mr. Noory if this is the kind of crap going on behind the scenes, eh, forgetting the only person keeping my stream-link subscription alive presently is Ian Punnett. Consider the source and move on?
Closing? It's not name calling if you really are a moron.
Keep us posted on this, will you. I want to see how stupid it gets. Jeez -- it's like slamming your hand in his car door and then raising hell with you because he couldn't get his door closed.
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Number 1, yes probably in that time slot, but what competition do they have? Practically none. Certainly zero in my area.
Pride cometh before the fall.
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Jer-
While I was surprised at the 3 month waiting time for this drivel to be tossed at you, I cant say I was surprised at the content. We're talking about the same show that propagated the Hale Bopp fiasco. Hello? Anyone have a memory within the UFO issue? Ok, how about the Chad photos? How about the idea that Sean Morton is one of the most regular guests?
Can we expect anything less then this sort of behavior out of a show that gives any of this garbage a platform?
No. It should be expected.
This Associate producer seems pretty bent on touting his "#1 show", but I highly doubt he's aware of how much "number 2" there is on his show every night. These people aren't the least bit interested in the enigma or the desire to try somehow to understand it, they're interested in selling, money and ratings...and I've often questioned at what cost.
~J
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Easy to be number 1 against the farm reports and the Rev Billy Bobs bible show.Keep us informed.Lets all hope Premeire Radio cares somewhat about the opinions of we who listen to the sponsor's.No more Noory nonsense.Hire a real host and a decent producer.Everyone should write the sponsor's and complain about the manure being fed to the uneducated masses that was once a fine and unique radio ride
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“We’re number 1 !..We’re number 1 !” against whom ? Coat is on AM 570 in the Seattle area, the place on the AM dial where all of the seething, puss filled, blood thirsty, right wing talking heads spew their self righteous vomit.
Number 1? Against them? Haaaaaa ha ha ha ha!!! That’s like saying you’ve won a foot race running against people that have no legs. That being said maybe one of their ridiculous Bible thumping guests should have quoted them this text:
Jeremiah 12:5
“If thou hast run with the footmen, and they have wearied thee, then how canst thou contend with horses? And if in the land of peace, wherein thou trudest, they wearied thee, then how wilt thou do in the swelling of Jordan?”
It’s easy to say your number 1 without having anyone to compete with. They’ll never be able to compete when the new show launches on the air. They’re too fat and out of shape with their own self importance. I’m not sure if anyone else heard it but, they were making fun of Noory on the Stephanie Miller show...damn she’s funny! It was about a week ago.
Jeremy, your right, there is a new breed arising within the paranormal community that will bring it a stability that comes from being grounded in intellectual sobriety. But in order for that to take form on the air, on a new radio show (how exciting!), it will most likely have to move over to the FM dial.
It’s like everyone in this thread has come awake (as it were) as to what they really want; what C2C can no longer give. Just knowing that will create a it and open the door for it.
Thank you Jeremy for providing a forum that has been a long time in coming. It’s a relief that others actually feel the same way. We should all get together for a convention to initiate this new direction.
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Thanks for posting these Jeremy. It's a damn shame what Noory and his cronies have done to Coast.
Oh and Michael Horn? Shut up.
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Well hell! Aint that a bucket of slop. It doesnt really surprise me though, as noory stated long ago, that he intended to make the show "more his own". And yes Tom, I can produce his post on a well known BBS that used to support C2C.It now appears that they, too, have jumped off the noory train...
I havent listened to noory in several years, altho I do listen to George KNAPP when he is on as guest host. The bottom line here is...credibility. From what Ive read here, neither noory or his producers have any.
Thanks for sharing Jer....
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What?!? No one yet picking up for Mr. Noory or Mr. Danheiser (him with a hubris similar, apparently, to GW
Perhaps, Mr. Noory should discipline his staff and research his guests a little more thoughtfully. Assuredly, he's not doing much to keep my subscription alive. Thank Knapp and Punnett for that.
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Oh, Mr. Lehmberg, after everything that everyone has told me about you, I will take this opportunity to publicly apologize to you, I've been harsh with you and I'm sorry to have hurt your feelings. Please accept my apology.
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Damn -- saw you lead with my name and the sword started out of its scabbard ... way to deflate the old rage sails. Apology gratefully accepted.
Hey -- fret not! I'm certain I'll piss you off one way or another, subsequently. Courage of conviction demands it, eh? I'm sure you're no different in your way and honorable for same, as I aspire to be.
I'll be collegiate if you will, Mr. Biedny.
...And thank you for your pretty brave note. I begin to think sometimes that I'm the only one brave enough to write a note like that, and I'm not that certain of myself, truth be told.
...easier to just _stop_ being nasty than apologizing for same.
Well done, Sir. You provide _proof_ you may be the better man.
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That is so sweet! It is amazing how the evil empire and a few words from Noory's imp can bring people together. I feel all warm and fuzzy right now.
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Wow! I feel like a bridge builder! Thanks, Tom, for moving us closer together. Workers In Light work in mysterious ways.
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Hey Jermemy! What's your ID on Godlikeproductions.com (the OFFICIAL George Noory Sucks thread)? You sound just like "Mr. Predictor"!
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I don't have one. But I'll check out the site, thanks!
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Hey,how about Tom Danheiser?? What a shock that PremRad allows this guy to produce a show!!! Amazing,thanks for letting us in on it Jeremy.And whatever you are going on about Mr Horn,enough with the hijacking sir, Danheiser?? Whew-strange man indeed,I would think Prem Rad would be embarrassed that this loon is on the pay role
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Well,I would like to know if this is "par for the course" with Mr Tom,is this just what is business manner is? Has anyone else had to deal with that nonsense.Why is he so worried about what Jeremy says anyway? Very strange-I really do think less of the whole "coast family" if they are all this paranoid about one mans words
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Thank you for bringing us back on topic. Would I were a better host I would have done that long ago. I've erased the HE WHO SHALL NOT BE NAMED posts because I've been informed that this is what he does for publicity: Goes on message/comment boards and stirs the pot. Pathetic.
As for Tom, my favorite part (besides the use of the word "shall") is that he doesn't know why I'd be confused that he's getting back to me three months later with a request for an apology from me, no less!
Tom, that truly does deserve an LOL.
The reason I want to believe it's just him running amok and not Noory sicking him after me is that when I told someone about this in general, she said, "Oh was it Tom Danheiser? I've heard bad things about him."
So I'm hoping it's just him.
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Hello Jeremy,
I heard your interview on C2C a couple months ago and wondered what was going on when you didn't come back. Too bad. Usually Noory's courteous far as I can tell; maybe he was having a bad night.
What I'm really thinking about is the x-conference. I recognized you there. I was intensely annoyed with Robert Miles--ok, he made the film. Present it and shut up. The other speakers were fine with me. I liked Nick Pope and Richard Dolan best, perhaps, but once you accept the reality of et presence here I don't think you can write off contactee stories. You look for corroboration and other details;just keep researching. I am of the opinion even Webre and Salla will be vindicate eventually. I know people who have been targeted with laser weapons, as has Webre. The technology is real and has been around a long time. It was written up in the WSJ as long ago as 1993.
Anyway, what were your impressions of the X-Conference?
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Dang, I'm always late to the party. Missed the HE WHO guy. phooey phooey
Anyway, is Danheiser the guy who came back to Coast recently? If so, is this kind of behavior that made him leave the first time? Just curious.
The show has certainly become George's show. Funny how it was apparent Art never listened to George's show. Perhaps because it has slid to a new low? We'll never know.
Live with it Mr. Danheiser and stop acting like a child.
George is probably a very nice man, but he isn't Art Bell, Ian Punnet or George Knapp. He gets the Halloween funsy stuff, but real paranormal issues are lost on him. While it isn't his fault, the show suffers greatly. If you're contract is tied to his, well, live with it. In fact, perhaps you might redirect your anger toward the impossible situation in which you find yourself, tied to a host who makes his producer look bad. Ah, there's the rub.
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For any who wish to hear "my side of the story", including the just circulated debunking of Biedney's false claims of "proof" against the Meier case, you can contact me through my website/email.
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I was going to erase this but I think you'll just keep posting so, let me try to be as diplomatic as possible here. Yes, email Horn for his side and go to the forums at www.theparacast.com for Biedney's side.
Please. No more Meier unless you are going to explain the pterodactl photo or the arm in the tinfoil suit with the plastic laser gun photo. If you want to defend either of those, I'm all ears. But nothing else. Thank you.
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Oh for cryan' out loud!!! Somebody shoot me---quit tootin' your Horn,no one CARES,this thread is not about you,,,Hey-JEREMY?? I thought you knew what this guy was up to-- YOU SAID NO MORE!!!Spare us PLEASE
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Oh. That HE.
Thanks, Jeremy. I have a short memory.
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I'll be happy to address the laser gun this way. There were several photos of the alleged ET woman, and Meier, with the gun AND a film with Meier with the gun. In addition, there is a good bit of information - and photographs - of the two trees Meier shot through PLUS the straight-line damage to various twigs and branches in the forest directly behind one of the trees.
Additionally, there is the report by Stevens on all of this - including his own first skepticism that the gun was a toy and the jacket made on earth.
All of this is SHOWN in the film, as are the surprising results of the investigation to find the "toy" gun and the suit/fabric.
And no, this isn't a commercial for a film. It's a report on the efforts of a self-financed 90+ minute, in depth, film that took a year to produce, with many prior years of research.
That's the difference between just shooting one's mouth off, in print or on radio shows, making defamtory claims, and putting the evidence out for the world to see.
And, since we also present the skeptical side of the story, everybody will be free to decide for themselves what the TRUTH is.
As for the dinosaur photos, I do not endorse them, simply because I know a little bit about the efforts to not only kill Meier (21 times) but to discredit him through theft, photo manipulation/substitution (Korff and others), etc. So, if you or anyone else wants to hang their hat on a few questionable photos (and they do exist) out of hundreds and hundres of authentic ones (and other still irreproducible physical evidence) then that is your choice.
But after nearly 30 years of researching everything available to me, and meeting about 40 of the principals in the case, I base my opinions on much, much more than whether a UFO photo "looks" like it's genuine, or a laser gun for that matter.
However, you invited my comments on those two issues and there you have them.
Thanks.
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Cool. So everyone decide for themselves. Go look up that laser gun photo and see if you want to spend time and money watching a documentary about this case.
And remember: In my film I tell you when I'm playing a practical joke. I'm just sayin'.
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Fair enough.
But in our film we let you hear and see what an EXPERT consultant to the U.S. Army Special Forces has to say about Meier (and another witness' credibility).
No practical jokes here.
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OK,,enough FREE COMMERCIALS for your video.Can we PAY those aliens to take you with them??
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Great stuff Jeremy. I've heard of things like this from C2C before, but nothing solid. Just goes to show how big of a head you can get when you're on the top of your own little hill with no one to shove you off.
Just the other day I was on a plane holding a copy of "From Atlantis to Sphinx" and the guy next to me started talking about how C2C got him into that kind of subject, but he thought it had gone downhill so far that he'd kind of given up, not realizing that there's a whole lot more going on out there in the world than just them. I think a lot of their 3 million listeners at any given time are just people who don't know there's anything else out there.
Heck, I even found out about a year ago that my 90 year old grandmother used to listen to Art Bell while she was laying in bed. Even she gave up on the new regime!
Keep telling the truth bud.
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GEORGE IS AN AMAZING PERSON WITH A HUGE HEART!! YOU ARE TOTALLY RUDE!!!
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Geez George. Take it like a man - OR - Tom...take it like a man.
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What the hell is rude about the truth? There are other shows out there with the same subject matter and most of them are much better than c2c. Why? Because the hosts of those shows actually research the guests and know what they will be talking about. They don't interrupt them mid sentence to ask another question that is totally unrelated to what they were just talking about. Noory could possibly have a huge heart, but that doesn't make him a great radio host.
Dustin - You are right, many people who listen seem to be those who either don't have internet access, are in jail, or out driving a big rig.
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Why do you all keep coming back to this stupid forum to post your insane comments? Move on with your life people! If you don't like C2C then don't listen! Why bash people? You are the reason there is so much hate in this world!
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Then why do you keep coming back to this "stupid" forum to post your insane comments? By your own statement aren't you contributing to all the hate in the world?
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I haven't made one crude remark as you all have. Total looney toons!
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Whatever you say "Julie".
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So you're saying that calling the forum stupid and the peoples' comments insane is...what, then? Refined etiquette?
Incidentally, Tom is at it again. I think he must be challenged in a special way. He emailed me a response to the last email I sent him, which, if you'll recall, he already responded to. So I emailed him back telling him he must have forgotten that he'd already responded and, indeed, our exchange was over. His reply?
"And still u cant resist e mailing me. Please stop. You may call me
when you can handle a number 1 radio show.
"Now please stop e mailing me "
I'm beginning to think he has a crush on me the way he keeps asking me to call. It's kind of cute, actually.
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I think he does have a crush on you. I have often wondered about him and Noory. Every time Noory talks about going out somewhere, like to dinner or the movies, or even sitting at home watching movies, it is always with Danheiser. Highly suspicious.
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Number 1 against WHAT I ask again?? The guys are worried about there jobs and its obvious.Tom is always posting on GEORGE NOORY SUCKS forum.Its a riot.He just may have a crush on you Jeremy,that would explain alot
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Do you think he mutters "Number one show" under his breath when "with" a lucky lady (or man or implement)?
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I'M HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM WITH TOM! HE SAYS NOT TO WRITE, THEN WRITES ME AGAIN WITH QUESTIONS AND WILL NOT ACCEPT MY ANSWERS. Help?! from,Shraddha
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Yea,WE are the "looney tunes"-did you read the Tommy Boy dribble to Jeremy? If not "julie" then perhaps Lisa?
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Wow. I know Noory is an extremely ignorant man (cannot pronounce the most basic of words), but his producer takes the biscuit in the immaturity category. It's a shame that two ignorant and petty men like this have such an opportunity to make a difference, and they squander it with this kind of behavior. It's a shame what they've done to the show. Thankfully, we have internet radio and podcasts, so they are no longer relevant.
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Thank you for this site. You have no idea what a relief it is to see "it's not just me." I've had strange e-mail exchanges with "Tommy" the producer on his Myspace page. I called in back in April and he said "I'll call Monday" to set up an interview on the air between the real Maitreya (a real man, not the fake that Benjamin Creme made up) and George Noory. He never called. When I emailed him, a long exchange began where he would say "stop emailing," and then follow that with a QUESTION or outrageous COMMENT that he would have to KNOW I'd answer. This has been going off-and-on since April! At one point I got depressed and frustrated and said something like "what the f**k do I have to do," and he writes back "You're scaring me." He's SCARED of a middle-aged woman that he has been baiting with his emails! I've been amazed that THIS is the man who holds the controls of who gets to be interviewed across the nation ?? He's written little notes like "k" (the shortest email I ever received). He keeps saying he needs "Proof" of the Maitreya, but ignores (or doesn't understand) my answers. And besides, what PROOF does he have of the other guests?? I think he tries to be nice, but he also seems overwhelmed and under-educated, but that's just my impression. I also don't know what HE has to speak FOR George! If anyone can help me get Maitreya a real interview, please let me know.
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note: after I say Tom is uneducated, I wrote "don't know what HE has to speak FOR George," instead of "don't know WHY" but you know what I meant.
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I don't listen any more but on a rare occasion. It is also one of the reasons I got out of the late night chat/forum business. I also have to say that I also got tired of Art Bell and his many "Peak Oil", and Military themed shows as well.
Some good sleep is much more appealing. I'm not about to stay up and listen to Morgus or some harmonica player either.
Let's face it, it's about money and they are trying to attract a more "mainstream", dumbed down audience because there are many more of them around than serious listeners who want intelligent conversation and discussion.
I am truly amazed at how many people still listen to a good guest being derailed over and over again with questions that totally change the subject right in the middle of interesting information. Truckers I can understand, but intelligent people? Guess they have nothing better to do!
CB
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As a huge fan of the old Art Bell show I remember back when they were trying out possible hosts to replace Art. Each candidate hosted the show for a short period of time. Can't remember how long. Maybe a couple of weeks. Maybe a month. Some of the candidates were clearly not right for the show, George Noory being one of those, in my opinion. For my money, Ian Punnet was the best. He's intelligent and knows his stuff. If he doesn't know something about what the guest is talking about he comes right out and says so rather than abruptly changing the subject or going on to another subject (Noory tactics). As Ian often says about himself, "I'm the dumbest person I know." That, in my opinion, makes him one of the most intelligent people I know. But I digress.
The point is, when Noory was chosen out of all the candidates to be the new host I was baffled beyond belief. I simply couldn't understand it. It made no sense whatsoever. How could that possibly have happened? The only sense I could make of it was to surmise that the decision must have been - in some way shape or form - a politically motivated move. Noory is clearly ignorant concerning many of the topics that the show covers. He often makes comments that are clearly inaccurate and/or uninformed. Much of the time it seems he is not actually listening to what the guest is saying. I could go on and on but, apparently, I'm just preaching to the choir here. It just feels good to have found a place to vent my frustration with Team Noory.
Oh, and by the way, the person who commented that C2C is carried on Seattle's 570AM is correct. That is the station where all of the talk show hosts are those loud-mouthed, bullying, Rushites, Hanityites and O'Reillyites. This tends to support my suspicion that the decision to put Noory in charge of the show may have had some sort of "insider" political agenda behind it. No doubt many of y'all have noticed how Noory gets all uppity and overly defensive when a guest dares to make what George thinks is an "unAmerican" comment? It's almost like he's paranoid that his "bosses" are going to come down on him if just lets the comment ride.
Call me a conspiracy nut, but maybe the whole idea behind the Noory Factor is to "dumb down" the great uninitiated masses (the bulk of the general population) regarding the kind of topics discussed on C2C. Sure, the show does bring these topics into the mainstream, and that's a good thing. But I feel like it does so in such a way that it ignores the "critical thinking" aspect that should go along with it.
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well, I don't think George Noory is all that bad, really. I think he does a good-enough job. It's his producer Tommy who I wonder about. Why does Tom have such power over a national show ?
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Against my better judgment, I'm going to pile on too. I found a month old email from somebody in my gmail account - which I rarely check anymore - alerting me to this blog entry of Jeremy's. I like Jeremy a lot & decided to post because of my affection for Jeremy, not to give Mr. Danheiser the attention which he apparently is sorely needing. On top of appearing to be something of a control freak, apparently he's also high maintenance.
In all fairness, though, if anyone should be a control freak, it's a producer.
For the record, I finally gave up on my Streamlink & listening to the show almost altogether. The last few years I only listened because it was entertaining to note all the mistakes, contradictory statements and sometimes outlandish things George would say. But even those have become repeats. He can't even come up with new & original mistakes, just repeat the old ones over and over.
But speaking of mistakes, I may as well go ahead and begin making mine, that is, acknowledging Danheiser on a public forum.
I have a question. Did I miss something, or did Danheiser ever get back to you on those "innaccuracies" he wanted you to retract ? I didn't see any evidence of that. I wonder why he didn't do that? Is it because there were no inaccuracies? What would prevent him from listing them?
I mean, if he was irate enough to write to Jeremy in the first place (Albeit 3 months late ! Knucklehead! ), why do you suppose he wouldn't list those alleged "innaccuracies" straight off the bat?
I used to know a full blown crackhead, and Mr. Danheiser's emails to Jeremy remind me for all of the world of exactly the sort of things this crackhead would say or write in emails. Exactly. So do the other emails I've seen from both him & George when they respond to various people they're arguing with. And also posts to message boards. I'm not saying Mr. Danheiser is on crack, I'm just noting the similarity.
"Shhtrange...." , as George frequently says.
I finally gave up on my Streamlink & listening to the show almost altogether. The last few years I only listened because it was entertaining to note all the mistakes, contradictory statements and sometimes outlandish things George would say. But even those have become repeats. He can't even come up with new & original mistakes, just repeat the old ones over and over.
(Aside to Nina): Nina, if somebody you looked up to & respected was lying to you and you didn't know it, wouldn't you appreciate someone else informing you of that lie?
(con't. ...)
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....con't..
Danheiser said: " I guess I figured the apology would be for all the in accurate info and for letting non credible people (such as Dixie) spout out against the show. By the way, George granted Dixie an interview that was 3 times the normal time so you can see why she would want to spew hate"
I wonder what I said that he finds not credible, false, etc. ??? Maybe nothing, maybe he just wanted to accuse me of not being credible to be nasty. I was nothing but a listener commenting on the show, I never claimed to be anything but that, so why would TD try to assign credibility to me? And further, what *does* constitute a "credible source" ? Surely not someone who *doesn't* pay attention, even Tom would have to agree that makes no sense!
Usually I listened to the show, then reported actual things George said on it, or on other shows where he was being interviewed. I never made anything up. When I did speculate about something, I always made it clear through my wording that I was speculating, or that what I stated was my opinion. When I quoted George, I would take care to go to Streamlink and transcribe him word for word. How would that make me "not credible"? And does pointing out a person's mistakes equal "spewing hate" ?
As for what he said about the interview, Jeremy is right. That makes no sense at all on any level. Mr. D. once again illustrates that he, like Mr. N., often have a difficult time with simple logic.
Mr. D. never understood me or my motives. When I spoke to him via phone or email, I could tell he was always a little confused, and at least a bit wary. For good reason, of course. If George "granted" me an interview "3 times the normal time", then I guess that would make "the normal time" 20 minutes. Until now, I was not aware of that. Hm. So I guess George also granted Ian Punnett, Whitley Strieber & one other fellow whose name escapes me, a "3 times the normal time" interview as well? Naw, I think Tommy was just confused when he wrote that. And George never "granted me" anything. He *agreed* to do a three hour interview. Tommy *granted* me a one hour interview.
Noory had agreed - in public on the Fantastic Forum message board - to do a full three hour interview. Danheiser stepped in and took the initiative to contact me to find out what all this was about and to make arrangements for George. I should also note that during the initial email period, I copied George on the emails between Tom and I, and once or twice, George responded, at which point Danheiser basically implied to George to stay out of it and let him handle it, and told me not to try to contact George any more for any reason.
At that point, Mr. Noory was being very cooperative, and I think it's possible he may have agreed to do a full three hour interview, had Tom not intervened. Possible. But we'll never know for sure.
(con't. yet AGAIN!!...)
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...con't., third ( and I swear the last!!! ) page
Although later George stood his "one hour and no more" ground very firmly.
Danheiser tried very, very hard to see that the interview wouldn't happen at all, making up several excuses & imaginary snafus along the way, but none of them held water. As it was, all he managed was to make it as short as possible - one hour as opposed to three, which is what I wanted.
Maybe that's what he was trying to say in the above quote. If that's the case, then his grasp of the English language is about as tenuous as George's is. Still, it makes no sense that that alone would make me, or anyone else "spew hate". That would be irrational, at the very least. It did irritate me that George went back on his word, but I have a feeling that he may have done the whole 3 hours if Tom hadn't told him not to. Let me ask you this, what reason would Tom or George have to refuse THREE HOURS of free publicity for George's book, "Worker in the Light", as opposed to ONE HOUR of free publicity. Can anyone tell me how that makes sense? Why would Tom insist George keep it short? Any insights? Anyone? Bueller?
Also, Jeremy said, "Just curious: Why would Dixie have a vendetta against George if she was granted a long interview? Seems like that would benefit her, no?"
Well, actually I didn't do the interview to benefit myself in any way, shape or form. If anything, it was to enlighten some of his listeners as to what he's all about. Had I had the full three hours, I feel certain I would have been able to ask more questions that would have revealed him to be not altogether who/what he presented himself to be to his audience. That was my only motivation, I have no aspirations to do radio. I'm blissfully content being a house-wife.
I've gone on far too long. Especially for someone who stopped listening weeks ago, and for the most part, stopped caring. But I like Jeremy a great deal, and I like all of you readers, so I thought someone might be interested in at least some of this. Thanks for taking the time to read it, if you've made it this far. And if you try to email me, don't expect a reply anytime soon! Obviously I don't check my "box" very often. Heh. I said "box". It has cobwebs in it. Heh heh. Best to all of you, have a great weekend, and enjoy Ian! - Dixie
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Wait, I'm confused: Which box has cobwebs in it?
Tom never did get back to me with the laundry list of lies and deceit I've been spreading for the purposes of never getting on the #1 show again thus screwing my "career." Oh. Wait. I wouldn't do that. No, that would be STUPID, which is obviously a quality I like to leave to Tomcat.
Really I don't think he had anything in mind. I think probably, with zero proof of this, but some anecdotal evidence, that at some point Bill Birnes, my financial partner in the Culture of Contact/George's real writer of "Worker In The Shite," told George that I had posted a better-balanced (and nutritious!) update to my angry rant. Probably what Tom heard (or wanted to hear) from George was that I was going to apologize and then waited and waited for an apology.
This, combined with the "Who the fuck is this David to our Goliath we pissed off that everyone agrees with and is now throwing Whitley Strieber a book launch," snobbery, no doubt clogging up his mind space, is PROBABLY what led to the "Give me a call" bullshit. I think had I called and apologized I would have gotten back on the show. I think this is what he was hoping for: A big suck-up love-fest where I tell George, "Everything's cool, Dippity Do. You're the bestest light worker of all..." And then switch to Cockney butler... "Wax your 'stashe, Govena?"
Not to be, dudes, not to be. But ONCE again, it's water under the bridge. Life goes on...
Until three months from now when I get the next email.
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well, I hope you check your email... I was just wondering...when you got emails back from George, what email address did you reach him at? Was it just the coasttocoast one or did you have another one? Because he never replied to any of my emails. Thanks.
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I'm astonished how leggy this story is. I wonder why that is. It seems to touch people on so many different levels. Were I a real light-worker I'd want to get to the bottom of it, frankly... but only if I was _named_ Frank. You might want to be "Jeremyly."
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How does one become a light worker anyway? Is there a degree you can get at a trade school or something?
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I suspect it has something to do with wielding a length of broom stick like a katana and making light saber noises... but I'm not sure...
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That's hysterical. And you know what they say about great comedy: It's funny because it's true.
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As Petula Clark sang back in the 60's, perhaps the Tom D style of management is "just a sign of the times", what with a White House full of henchmen who seem to lean on anyone they deem threatening enough to upset their game. After all, isn't this behavior becoming the norm now in corporations and institutions? I worked for 30 years for Ma Bell. She went from being a maternal loving mother and we her "family" to becoming Joan Crawford with a coat hanger screaming in rage at the workers to scrub the toilet harder! When I asked why we were being treated this way by the "new management", I was told "We do not have time to coddle employees anymore." Gee, thanks. Hope fear and loathing works as a productivity tool (I immediately retired). Anyway, I think Tom is just a reflection of the times. You gotta get up to date, Jeremy. Total Quality Assurance was big stuff in the 80's along with win-win management. That's all gone and there seems to be a vibration of totalitarian illogic now running things from tops (White House) down. Petula Clark, where are you when a down trodden nation needs you? By the way, remember her song DOWNTOWN? Man, imagine going downtown nowadays for excitement....yeah, carjackings, stabbings and drug deals. I can hardly wait.
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Looks like Ma Bell came straight outta Nickelodeon. MTV Networks considered themselves a "family-run" business well into the late nineties. Then Viacom merged with CBS and decided to go with the CBS model of running a business. It was all downhill from there.
How I long for the days of Total Quality Management. But we'd rather not learn what works and what doesn't, just shove the square peg through the round hole. Who cares? The bosses make money either way and everyone else is a statistic or a target.
At odds with most of the country (ironically) Downtown Manhattan is pretty nice
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Jeremy, you're amazing. Coast is dead, and apparently now we have an inkling of why. Thank you for posting all of this!!!
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