Culture of Contact Episode 32: Ted Roe Sleeps Wit Da Fishes
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Jeremy travels to all the way to Hawaii to interview the ellusive Ted Roe, Director of the National Aviation Reporting Center on Anomalous Phenomena (NARCAP). They discuss the now-debunked U.N. UFO meeting promoted by exo-politics guru Michael Salla as well as NARCAP's work and...well...dolphins. It is Hawaii, after all!
How can one do research for 40yrs
and still not have anything interesting
to say in an interview. Its not your
fault jeremy and its too bad you traveled
all that way for nothing.
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Also, his voice volume was too low compared to yours and was missing
one channel of the stereo...'sigh'
anyways...thanks for the work irregardless
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Say, thanks for letting me off the hook even if you hated the episode...the channel isn't missing. My recorder is in mono. I turned his voice all the way up, so that's the best I could do.
I thought he was informative. I had no idea about the plasma research NASA had done, for instance.
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"Irregardless" IS NOT A WORD. It's a bastardized corruption of "irrespective" and "regardless". STOP USING IT NOW.
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Great show. Very informative and sensible.
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Thanks.
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I won't listen to this crapola interview.
Hey Vaeni, you should just pull the g'dern thang!
yeah just pull it!
I'm a gonna to listen to that bell guy agen - yup!
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Uuuuuh...okay. I'm pulling it. What now?
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can't wait for the new show...
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MP3 VERSION OF PODCAST
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http://tinyurl.com/33y5a5
Look for the file named:
CoC Ep32 - Live From Hawaii - Ted Roe.mp3
Just click the filename to download.
Cheers!
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Aloha Jeremy,
And welcome back! As you can see, we didn't trash the place too badly while you were gone. There's leftover pizza on the coffee table and cold beer in the fridge. Help yourself!
And now, I'm gonna go listen to this interview.
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Aloha. Thanks for feeding the pets. Lehmberg, mostly. The beer is yours
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Dearest Jeremy:
I thought that I could have soiled my panties when I saw a picture of you next to my Brooklyn heart and/or other organ throb, Isaac Misrahi, or, as I like to call him/her, Isaac Mizrashe.
Twins!! From the same breeder, no doubt!! Now I can rest easy while trolling for tubbies along Broadway. Toodles!!
BIG (!!) Richard
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Please, people, please: When going for the jugular and/or making phobic jokes, have the courtesy to make sense. Otherwise, it's just lame. For more, please see above.
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Terrific job on this last interview. Interesting stuff.
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It was great meeting you Jeremy and your anonymous lady friend. I appreciated your interview skills and was happy to participate.
To your listeners, please discriminate between my comments and Jeremy's as I don't necessarily share his views on all things though I find that we are sympatico on many points.
I apologize to you all for my own speaking skills, I rarely do interviews and will work diligently to improve them.
As for the first comment on the "comments" list on this page regarding 40years of research and nothing interesting.... that isn't entirely true but the real fact of the UFO situation is that while we have a lot of observations and anecdotal comments, we have very little factual information. For 60years UFOlogy has failed to influence anyone but itself and if we want to break that pattern we have to become more discriminating and less speculative. We need to exercise discipline and work through the data without projecting speculations and beliefs into the situation. Maybe then we will have some more interesting materials for review...
In any case, if anyone wants to talk with me I can be reached at ted_roe@narcap.org. If you are interested in freediving and swimming with sea life of various types go to:
http://everblue-freediving.blogspot.com
I offer instruction and tankless diving tours...
Anyway, try to be satisfied with a little bit of truth and have the courage to say "I don't know" when you don't. Be patient and critical... good luck.
Ted Roe
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Dear Ted Roe
You are entirely right but i will be
dead in another 40 years probably...and
at this rate...hahha
anyways...i respect your intelligence and diligence. I apologize for sounding
crabby and went ahead and listened to
the interview again....Are you sure there
is nothing 'outstanding'in your records?
Anything?? heh
alright, I'll stop. You are right..'sigh'
Its a very advanced intelligence we are
dealing with... it will take time
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A new closing for the show --
"Out of the CLOSET -- and into the COSMOS!!"
Toodles!!
Mr. Dick -- BIG(!!) DIck!! (AH likes'm BIIGGG!!)
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Cool. I've finally got a hate-mailer. I must be doing something right.
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Sure sign you've hit the big-time Jer!
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Hey -- everybody who wanted to eat, ate, and I thought it was understood about the beer! Jeez, it would only have gone bad. I did you a favor.
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There's definitely a volume difference, but the interview overall wasn't too shabby. Good luck to the guy trying to take the woo-hoo tinfoil shit out, much to Salla's chagrin apparently. And Salla does have that creepy guru aura about him.*shiver*
As a person who's part-time occupation is to throw tinfoil out into the blogosphere like a chimp throws feces just to be a general pain in the ass, deep down I would like to see some science applied to UAP/UFO research, just to bother people like Greer and Salla.
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But... Dolphins... aren't fish...
Also, if we're the creators of our own reality, we should seriously consider firing ourselves and hiring some professionals. This DIY shit is for the birds...
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But we did swim with fish. And sea turtles. And, yes, dolphins.
Who said "irregardless?"
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John "The Fondle" Caress seems to have
been the first, although it felt like
capnG was trying to debone me for
i felt a little unraveled.....
heh
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Although ‘grammar girl’ http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/irregardless.aspx would share your horror at the use of the double negative (as it’s used in this case), many others would argue double negatives (and sometimes triple negatives) were commonly used in medieval literature, in Shakespeare and also in Latin. I have an English teaching friend who believes it’s much ado about nuttin – a grammatical undoing – used to lay traps for and to discipline high school freshmen.
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If it was me, I'd put up a sign stating 'Please Don't Feed The Grammar Nazis'.
Jest sayin'.
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What do you do for a living that requires you take swipes at starry-eyed bleevers? Is that secret or does everyone know but me?
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You oughta see where I work at, logic and good sense take a backseat to expediency and greed, in short, modern industry in America. Or the last vestiges anyway.
Besides, I have to submit reports to a QA director who's a grammar Nazi, drives me nuts.
Taking swipes at 'bleevers'? Naw, just cynical is all. Don't mean to insult anyone.
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Yeah... but a self-contained double negative!? That just ain't not right...
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From Wikipedia
The descriptive approach to "irregardless" is to note that it is considered nonstandard by educated people.
Interestingly words with similarly-redundant meanings have gained widespread acceptance. Examples include words such as "debone" and "unravel".
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This is why you should cast off the chains that bind you to wikipedia - unless you're working on your seventh grader's homework.
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Maybe cleaning up ufological dodge is a worthy ambition, even a noble one if you want to pretend that the best that science has to offer ...knows... that there is something there worth studying! They just refrain from doing so for a few very pragmatic if very arguable reasons.
Haines, Maccabee, Sturrock, Vallee, Mcdonald, Hynek, Hall... et sig al, are all the supposition Science needs swing its ponderous attention around to the mystery of UFOs.
Moreover, if you can lose 2 TRILLION dollars in the petty cash drawer at the Pentagon while simultaneously shortchanging the freaking TROOPS, don't talk to me about _cost_, eh?
That all said. A fine man with a faultless reputation, Ted Roe has the chops to attempt the "noble gesture" in a forthright and above board manner.
...Not some nicky new guy wading in cluelessly to flog a dodgy Christian meme larded in an engaging prose style to engage in back-shot whisper campaigns and retarded well poisonings... and I ain't talkin' about _you_, dude!
...You know?
Great interview, J. -- top _freaking_ drawer.
...And I'm _not_ sorry about the beer! Beer is my right! When it's free it's an imperative!
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Well thanks. I didn't think you were referring to me. I'm not Christian, just Christ-like in that I have a halo-ish glow about me. Unfortunately it's around my ass. You know this to be true. You own my movie.
You know one thing I will always appreciate about you, Alfred, is your ability to let go. Oh...wait....
I'm beginning to believe you and Daniel are opposite sides of the same person, which is why you really don't like each other. It's almost archetypal, this little battle. Perhaps you were brothers in another life. I'll ask Dr. Sprinkle.
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Agreed. Far be it from me to criticize a guy who is trying to separate the good from bad and fact from speculation - always laudable work...but there's lots of laudable work out there, with no tipping point for science to take up the subject in sight - or much mainstream media attention, either. UFOs do not fit within any readily apparent formula.
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Thanks for the episode, I dug it.
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Cool. Thank YOU, Nate.
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Yeah I know, that's me... tenacious to bleedin' fault...
...But me letting go is not the issue; the tempest in a teapot is the disrespect arbitrarily tendered and stealthily imposed. I figure I'm saving the next guy some grief, the very least I can do in the service of light and right... ironically enough, eh?
That said: I'm shown nothing to dissuade me or disabuse me of this externally imposed notion I'm compelled to have. Too, I can show respect, but I _will_ be respected, or grok the reason why, eh?
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Surely, this cryptic dialogue could go off-line, since Alfred and Vaeni seem to be personal friends? Why use a publicly viewed comments board for a podcast to vent your issues of personal respect and ego?
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Sorry, Jason. Didn't mean for our little blip in the radar that was over with until you just chimed in, which hearkens back to a feud actually started in the comments section of a different episode, to get in the way of the fascinating podcast-related back-and-forth on the use of the non-word "irregardless."
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Sorry I dared to say anything that could be seen as an attack on the harmonious oneness of your podcast comments. I've since read comments from a lot of previous podcasts and see that treading here is a dangerous pursuit, and can lead to vicious attacks that go far beyond just this webpage. No thanks, buckaroo!
This seems to now be a pretty close-nit little group, except for the occasional lost soul who wanders in here.
I apologize for walking into a private party in progress. Proceed as though I never existed.
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It's just sarcasm, Jason. I'm dripping with it. [Amongst other things.] No harm intended.
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"...with no tipping point for science to take up the subject in sight - or much mainstream media attention, either. UFOs do not fit within any readily apparent formula."
...That's the point addressed in a recent draft paper I sent to Jeremy regarding Dorothy (we're not in Kansas any more!) Izatt. It wonders how much moneyed science can be depended upon to even assist in the ufological investigation.
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And a fine essay it was, too and something I rant about myself.
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"Surely, this cryptic dialogue could go off-line, since Alfred and Vaeni seem to be personal friends? Why use a publicly viewed comments board for a podcast to vent your issues of personal respect and ego?"
I suspect, Sir, in the same fashion that you can criticize same... ...because I _can_, presently.
Too, it lets _you_ know where the bear goes through the buckwheat, to a degree. That said, respect is met with same.
This is no exclusive club of capering trolls... outside of small digressions and comic relief we're pretty serious about what we're about, eh?
Unclench the old hams and wade in dude, be a part of the "irrelevance"... don't carp from the treeline.
alienview@roadrunner.com
> www.AlienView.net
>> AVG Blog -- http://alienviewgroup.blogspot.com/
>>> U F O M a g a z i n e -- www.ufomag.com
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[sniffing my pits and smelling lilacs]
Gracious! Though, like I said, respect is met with respect, always. Perhaps he thought he wouldn't be able to measure up.
Moreover, far be it from me to apologize regarding commentary involving deserving others off this site. Disrespect is going to have consequences, sometimes.
Yeah, sometimes it's ego. Too, sometimes it's blowing your horn before a funnel is made from it, eh? I suspect I know the difference between the two.
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Enjoyed the interview. New to your podcasts. Was curious about your take on Alfred Webre of exopolitics and if you could point me to the casts in which you comment on him. I have had some 'unsettling' exchanges with him and in short, he and the whole movement makes me furious. Would you know of a group or organization in which researchers or writers could participate that is intelligent and discriminating? No exopolitics, No Billy Meir, No Project Serpo. A group with no tapes, certificates, or DVDs to be purchased?
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Hi, NChant:
Glad you're liking it. Alfred Webre is either a charlatan, delusional, or both. I believe I have audio toward the end of Episode 7 wherein he says that the towers were taken down on 9/11 by reverse-engineered alien laser technology. This came during a panel discussion right after another fellow on the panel accused half of them (and singled out Webre) of being CIA agents. Here's the direct link:
http://blog.valiens.com/2007/09/25/culture-of-contact-episode-7-disclosure-deconstructed-a-rock-opera.aspx
It was such a crazy time that I did the episode as a Nine Inch Nail rock opera so...sorry in advance if that's not your style. But, again, if you wade through to the middle end you'll find the Webre segment.
Now, to your second question--I'm glad you asked! I've been silently assembling just such a group and will be unleashing them upon the world in a week or two. I'm killing off Valiens.com and launching cultureofcontact.com. Right now that brings you to a lame google page. But soon--oh so very soon--you'll have what you're looking for. Here's who will be on tap (in alphabetical order):
Nancy Birnes
Richard Dolan
Nick Redfern
Jeff Ritzmann
Ted Roe
Mac Tonnies
Yours Truly
It will feature two distinct podcasts (including this one), an historic experiencer experiment, and Ted Roe's CASE CLOSED, which will present the in-depth investigations he, NARCAP, and other colleagues have performed to actually solve some of these UFO mysteries. This way we'll finally have an online archive of things we need no longer debate so we can concentrate on the real open mysteries.
In the meantime, do check out www.narcap.org for no-nonsense investigations into pilot cases.
Back to Webre...What were your unsettling exchanges about?
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What?!?!?! No Alfred?
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"Would you know of a group or organization in which researchers or writers could participate that is intelligent and discriminating? No exopolitics, No Billy Meir, No Project Serpo. A group with no tapes, certificates, or DVDs to be purchased?"
The best things in life should be free, but there's always been a premium on information, good or not. You don't know until you go down the road, you know?
Books, tapes, and DVDs are the only way most of us can get any info, at all, eh? We still have to sift it ourselves, sure, but we shouldn't be too quick to sneer at what might be a really sincere effort by someone, eh?
Frank Longo's film about Dorothy Izatt is a case in point. There are many others, too.
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Nice article and video can you take me to hawai next time.
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The best things in life should be free, but there's always been a premium on information, good or not.
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