Culture of Contact Episode 45: Alan Steinfeld's New Reality
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New Realities host Alan Steinfeld & Culture of Contact host Jeremy Vaeni go toe-to-toe on the New Age. What is the New Age? When did it start? Is it crap? What about aliens? What about what's going on with Jeremy personally? Does it all fit together or is it a case of square peg, round hole--both are shapes so we try to make them fit?
This episode is so conversational it almost sounds like just a regular phone call.
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Thanks you two... that was really fun!
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Thank you for listening. I'm really grateful to see so many more people commenting lately. Glad to know you're out there!
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Jeremy,
When you had your big I AM experience were you able to fuction in society? Did you find it dificult to hold so much energy and or informtion and remain sane? Not that "sanity" as defined by the current culture doesn't have it's own problems.
I have times where my thoughts and perceptions are moving so fast that I seem to perceive several realities at once. I don't usually find this a problem because I am used to it. I would however find it difficult to hold at least my understanding of the I AM experience and still be able communicate with others and have a everyday 3D life. If there is an off switch to my brain or thinking I have not found it yet.I am not sure if I want to only because I pesonally like my self centered ego.
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The short answer is no, it didn't drive me nuts. It was kinda hard holding a pointless day job after that. But it's been surprisingly easy to not feel "holier than thou," which is the death of it.
What was your I AM experience?
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There's the conundrum. The big I AM hits you, you get it all. What to do with it?
Ego is necessary in this 3D level for basic existence, feeding oneself, providing shelter, etc. It has a purpose though that purpose becomes exaggerated over time until ego has a stranglehold on the premise that the material is the be-all and end-all.
In my case, (no finger pointing here) the consciousness download doesn't transform one's life in a single instant. It just defines a role of service we're supposed to adopt, whether that is as teacher or useful servant toward humanity, the earth, and yes, the cosmos. Heck, if everything we're finding about star dust is true, the universe if geared toward creating life.
If we're given this life, why do anything but really LIVE it? I think that's what Steinfeld was getting at in his references to Tolle and The Course in Miracles. They each define a way of living the best life with the knowledge of I AM.
I don't think that means everyone must become a guru and give up his worldly possessions, but that one opens his heart to live fully.
I don't often find that an easy thing to do. I wanna be special. LOL
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I get that but I think it's wrong. I think the species does have a mandate to wake up fully or die on the vine. There is an urgency there. Then again, someone like me comes along every so often saying just that so I could be wrong...but look around. We can't sustain ourselves much longer.
It's not about giving up worldly possessions and renunciation or finding a "better way" to live more fully. I think that's the thing someone like Tolle comes along and says every so often. (I haven't read his book so I'm assuming. It's basically spiritual self-help, right? I just think we're out of time for that.)
I think the time for waking up to new states and stages in increments is coming to an end. It's time for a complete shock to the system. If religions worked they'd have worked by now. If the New Age was anything more than a rehash, it would have done the trick. I do agree with Alan that taking the best from each religious tradition--taking what's real from them--is a good idea but the New Age movement hasn't done that, which is precisely why it failed and had to cover itself up by changing the term "New Age" to "spiritual" or "conscious" as he said. The New Agers got confused with the whole "We create our own realities/Everything is subjective" thing that resulted from the misinterpretation of the term "paradigm shift." (Read ya some Ken Wilber for more on that.)
If everything is subjective then that statement is false because it claims to be objective. Oops.
So the New Age peeps accepted every claim at face value--because who are we to judge? When you live by that, you make equal room for psychopaths like the Heaven's Gate cult leaders.
We always think we're growing more and more enlightened as a society wherever we are in history. The Spanish Inquisition thought they worked in the name of the divine. So does the Neocon Inquisition. Same story, different generation. It doesn't work that way because societies cannot wake up, it's an individual process. It can't be institutionalized and, I'm sorry, but a bunch of soccer moms reading Tolle because Oprah told them to doesn't mean squat. Self eradication is the order of the day, not self help. If Tolle's message is self eradication and it gets translated through the Oprah self help filter, then what has he achieved? More people saying "I get it" and feeling joy for a minute while the world blows up around them--and then they go back to being assholes. (Heeeee.)
So what is my role? What can I do to help? I conclude now that it's nothing. No role. I'm no help. I'm just going to sound like a pessimist to those who want to go on as they are and like a teacher to those who have tricked themselves into believing they don't. Just writing this looks pretentious and messianic. But fuck it. There it is.
You want to know why mystics/messiahs write in riddles for those with "eyes to see?" It's because they know that to give an answer is to remain in time, out of the now state. What they say, what they do, and what they are is a paradox for this reason. They are the riddle riddling and if you cross your eyes just right, you see the real dimensions of it.
Disagreeing, saying, "That's all crap," and ignoring it is a conclusion, a dead end.
Agreeing, saying "Wow, that makes so much sense," is a conclusion, a dead end.
Saying "This sounds just like A Course In Miracles" is a diversion, a way to stay dead in the face of it.
And then turning around and saying, "Well who are you to tell me anything? You're as dead as I am," is a fact. And it's also a dead end.
Where do you turn when nothing works?
Why not stop turning? It's your own damn tail you're trying to eat anyway.
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Jeremy,
RIght on for you two, good interview!
It's a curious thing, this struggle that takes place with your avoidance (repulsion?) to the term "new age"
Alan calls you on it a few times, and you respond defensively. (albeit in a jokey sorta way)
Jeremy, there is a real palpable tension surrounding your hostility toward this term and all it's trappings.
Now here's a thing that I noticed in a pile of my NOO-Age books (and I got a lot of em).
There is a guy named Neale Donald Walsch, and he wrote (channeled?) a series of books titled CONVERSATIONS WITH GOD. These books have been wildly popular, and I really like them, they were immensely helpful for me. They are basically a back-and-forth dialog between Neale & God. (Yes, God)
In the first three books, he is struggling, filled with angst and sort of argumentative. There is a very real cantankerous tension in the dialog. And I found I could really access some deeper truths from these books. I loved that restlessness, I could relate.
But - as time went on, Neale mellowed out. He becomes, well - more "new-agey" in a way that made me loose interest. He now writes (and speaks) in a sort of flowy sing-songy tone that leaves me totally un-engaged. I liked and NEEDED that tension to access the deep stuff.
Anyway - enough about Neale.
The thing I notice is... There is a palpable tension in the way Jeremy presents and debates this stuff. He is - true enough - espousing some stuff that is downright "New-Agey" and he's doing it in a way that is a little bit cantankerous.
And - I find it really refreshing. Nothing doe-eyed here.
Right on, more power to you, fight the good fight!
peace (and I mean it!)
Mike C!
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I think I answered it in my response to CC. Read it and tell me what you think.
I'm not New Agey. New Age has co-opted good and real stuff and made a grab bag game out of it. To steal this from Biedny for the thousandth time... there's a signal-to-noise ratio in everything. The noise of the New Age is far louder and more deceptive than any religion I can think of because it's so all over the place. Anything goes if you're just willing to be nonjudgmental.
Mental, yes. But nonjudgmental.
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Jeremy,
I just re-read your posting above. And I agree with everything you say. But, alas, I haven't had your profound conversion. And - I want it!
I feel like humanity on this planet is a sort of casual experiment by some higher consciousness. (God? The great ALL or maybe Aliens toying with monkey genetics?) We are stuck here with blinders on (or maybe dark glasses with a little pin dot to see thru, I like that better) and this is by design. We were created like this, designed to have a limited perception of the richness and complexity surrounding us.
Our goal in this existence it to somehow pull those glasses off and truly SEE the wider and more important view around us.
The term Buddha gets translated to "one who is awake" - I mean, that dude sat under the Bodhi tree and managed to get those glasses off. What about ME???
Earlier this morning, I sent an email to a pal and I said: "I feel like my feet are glued to the floor." I mean it, I'm stuck! I know EXACTLY the direction I need to go in, but it's hard.
I want those dark glasses OFF! (Want! Want! Want!)
Also - I gotta ask - do you drink coffee? Cuz that previous posting is insightful in a way that makes me suspect caffeine. It's GOOD!
peace,
Mike C!
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Ha! Coffee is man's best friend. I am doped up as we speak.
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I feel like I've been ranting like a one note record. Sorry, but I really WANT some big insight out of my compulsive focus on the abduction phenomenon.
The stuff with Alan was really good. It tapped into a side of this that sure doesn't come up with historians looking at old government documents about roswell.
I gotta say, I am totally bored with stories of airline pilots describing anomalous lights in the sky. There is something SO much more intense in this whole UFO thing. And I'm feeling NEEDY for that deeper stuff.
peace,
M!
(Jesus drank wine, I drink coffee)
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Your rants are always welcome here.
Of course you want more from it! Life is multidimensional and the nuts-and-bolts-only crowd is trying to improperly distill this to its material element because that's the only thing they can use as "proof" to like-minded people who won't accept proof anyway so why are they bothering?
Think Bill Nye The Bow Tie Guy gives a shit about landing traces and radar blips? Not a chance.
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My seccond cup of coffee too! I live in Seattle it is expected but mine is organic coffee not GE Starbuck's (just my opinion).
My I AM experience well it has been a very long time since it took place.I was a teenager at the time living in Colorado Springs.
When I was 15 years old I started seeing a psychologist. After two years of geting nowhere he looked at me and said you are the most closed up person I have ever met. He brought in a woman who worked with movement and that seemed to change things.
Very long story short I started aparently pereiving things that I beleive now someone or something did not want me to know. Just when I was starting to get somewhere my parents said the insurance ran out and I could not see this psychologist anymore.
I would stay up at nights in the bacement listening to music and running energy through my body. I would do very complcated yoga like postures intuitively.
At some point I started feeling and being connected to everything.I was the clouds and would start walking toward the phone before it rang. I would start singing a song befrore it would be on the radio. Not understanding what the hell this was I thought it was great. The natural hi was absolutely beyond words. Living at home with a Catholic family they thought I was just wacked.
I was not able to fuctiona at school with this type of awareness and would just walk out of class becasue I felt like it. I would have strangers on the street want to be close to me because my energy was so strong.
Not too much after this I had what could be best described as a
negative possession. I remember the experience so I wasn't taken over but I remember being influenced. I looked in the mirror and saw something else. My father walks by and sais what is that smell!. To this day my sister is afraid of that time. She thought my possession was a product of her getting close to God. This poosession lead to me getting very sick and ending up in he hopital with ketoacidosis. I think that is what it is called. I had type 1 diabetes at the time.
Anyway does this sound like a I AM experience to you or just a troubled teen?
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Ever have Kona coffee from Hawaii? It's gooooood.
What were the things you were perceiving that someone or something didn't want you to know?
Why would your sister associate something happening in you with her getting too close to God? And what does that even mean? (Like through prayer?)
How did the possession lead to ketoacidosis and not the diabetes itself? What led you to that association?
All very interesting!
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Whoa! LOL
Just what do you think living fully means? It isn't praying over crystals, that's for sure. Amongst other things, it means finding your passion and living it, just as you did in your response to me. (It was really GOOD!)
It does NOT mean smiling and living in a blissful state, but going for all a life on earth has to offer from your
imagination, your purest emotion and your connection to God. It does NOT mean assigning psychopaths to some airy fairy gee aren't they poor people kind of den. It means being aware of where your head is when it isn't operating from consciousness, not just when the mood hits. It does NOT mean your conversion to consciousness will help another, that never works. But you assume I don't know all that from a simple post. Me thinks you're lookin' for a new agey war where there isn't one.
If we're to be nonjudgemental, we don't get to apply that only to the things we don't choose to judge. It has to encompass all. Tolle says to wake up NOW. He doesn't say tomorrow or next week. You might read his book before making assumptions. Not a judgement per se, but a suggestion if you're going to include him in your rant. Also, Wilbur is great, but don't assume others haven't read him.
I get the feeling that response to me was really a response to yourself, Jeremy. If you're no help, why do you keep talking? Why does Wilbur? Why does Tolle? Why Steinfeld? Because we DO have a mandate and it is there when we are born. The big Eureka moment is so overpowering that we want to share it, because we are meant to share, all the while knowing that it will do no good other than to put a name to the mandate. So maybe that's all we need to do? I don't know. But it can't hurt to share with another that this pull each of us feels because it is universal.
Seems pretty simple to me. We are consciousness. We are all connected, new agey as that is. We're given a life. We're to bring consciouness into life. It's only hard when one doesn't want to do it. Most of us don't want to do it. That's what many of us have to overcome. You sound surprised that, given what you know, you still don't want to live it. What's the surprise?
It sounds as though you wish I would shut up though. I will.
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Hi, CC:
I wasn't assuming you didn't know what I was referring to with Ken Wilber and the such. I write that stuff in there because this is a public forum so there may be people who aren't familiar and I don't want anyone to get too lost in unfamiliar territory. I'll just respond to a few things here if I may....
Just what do you think living fully means? It isn't praying over crystals, that's for sure. Amongst other things, it means finding your passion and living it
I know. I'm saying that's irrelevant at this point. Who cares if you find yourself and become a great artist, baseball player, teacher, or whatever, if the ice is melting and the woods are on fire?
you assume I don't know all that from a simple post. Me thinks you're lookin' for a new agey war where there isn't one.
I was responding to your post but not addressing you personally. For all I know you're Jesus' twin sister, Janus. Naw, not picking on you just trying to clarify what I said in the interview with Alan and my concerns.
If we're to be nonjudgemental, we don't get to apply that only to the things we don't choose to judge .
I am judgmental. That's what separates me from plankton.
Tolle says to wake up NOW. He doesn't say tomorrow or next week. You might read his book before making assumptions.
True, in terms of judging his work. But I think the way he is received by Soccer Momerica will be the same whether he's a self-help guru or a wake-up-now kinda guy. All of human history is on my side, unfortunately.
If you're no help, why do you keep talking?
It's that or twiddle my thumbs. Some people know math. Some people know sports. This and Bruce Campbell movies are the crap I know. Beyond that I don't have an answer at the moment.
The big Eureka moment is so overpowering that we want to share it, because we are meant to share, all the while knowing that it will do no good other than to put a name to the mandate.
Or maybe that's it too. I know it used to be. When it first happened, absolutely. But that was years ago and I don't know what my motivation is anymore. Perhaps it'll come to me.
We are consciousness. We are all connected, new agey as that is. We're given a life. We're to bring consciouness into life.
God-self awareness or bust. Just bringing consciousness into life is what we already do. Some don't know there's more to us than that and some suspect it and trick themselves into believing they're doing something about it because unconsciously they don't want to. They follow paths and say they are ascending or ascended like this is Dungeons & Dragons. They stumble, they fall, they do it again differently.
It sounds as though you wish I would shut up though. I will.
No, no! Babble on, Babylon! I'm going to.
I'm not saying "I wish you would shut up." Just "shutting up is the only way to hear something that isn't you (and me) talking." That's the deep free will choice. But if you're a caterpillar in a cocoon saying, "Look, asshole: I get the concept of being a butterfly. You're not the only one who gets it...." Remember you're still a caterpillar in a cocoon. I may be too. Or I may be a butterfly. That has no relevance to your situation and neither does getting the concept.
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Jeremy,
Hey - Be nice to the soccer moms! If the world is gunna change, they need to ascend too!
And - You should INTERVIEW Eckert Tollee. It would be really good. You'd like him. And read some of his stuff before y'call do the interview.
xoxoxo
M!
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I have had Kona coffee and yes very very good. I am a coffe snob and proud of it.
Oh back to my past.As far as my sister thinking what she did I do not know for sure. She has told me that but I never asked her what she meant by getting close to God. I think she meant it in a religious way.
How I connected the so called possesiona and my ketacidosis was first of all I had diabetes for a few years before this happened. The extreme stress combined with not taking care of myself lead to this state I beleive.
Now your other question is very difficult to answer. I really hope that I don't sound completely nuts and paranoid but I have reasons to beleive that I was part of a govt experiment. I also think as so do a few shrinks that I have seen over the years that amnesia of certain events were induced. That is where it gets trcky considering I am an experiencer as well. I would rather not get too specific at this point because ever though I am not using my real name on this forum I don't want to hurt any family members.
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What are your reasons for believing you were part of an experiment? Don't leave us hanging!
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Finding a passion isn't really the answer, I'll admit. What I meant is that most people who get the AHA find their lives return to the mundane despite the initial, fantastic download. It can be a real disappointment and even a relief. But eventually, I do believe that the lucky ones find a natural falling away of pretense, ego and such. Tolle explains how it happened to him and I believe it was long after his I AM download. If not, I'm remembering only what occurred to a good friend.
I'm not talking about being a great artist, baseball player or teacher. Guess I'm just talking about Being a great human and letting the rest come to one because it does. Not fame or fortune necessarily, but the stuff that counts. (Trying to avoid new age crapola phrases, but honestly, there aren't words for Being, at least in my vocabulary,)
But one bonus is discernment, understanding psychopaths without extreme reaction to them. We deal with them as we must, but with compassion for their ignorance regardless that we must protect society from their actions. It requires flexibility, something that Steinfeld has in abundance along with no need to be "right." (That's probably our biggest downfall, the ever determined effort to be right.) Think back, that New Age Steinfled was so eager to look at your argument with new eyes and ears. He sure got something out of all that New Age babble in spite of the spiritual corruption inherent in it.)
And back to passion, take Wilbur for instance. As much as he understand consciousness, he continues to explore and expand it. He's a pioneer with passion for what he does. That's human. He gets to be human too while he is Being, exploring and detailing what he understands. Heck, he gets to excessively intellectualize without the guilt of being with a small "b." That's really living fully. To me, that is bringing consciousness here, forgiving duality when it crops up.
I'm certainly not without judgment and I don't claim to have a permanent handle on being present. But man, there are some days I'm there and life is effortless because there is no enlightenment, there is no God and there is no ego. There's just Being.
So it's a given there are no assholes either.
Except for Greer and Horn. I mean ... REALLY.
End of babble.
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Here's something we can all agree on:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21OH0wlkfbc&feature=related
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Sir,
I was listening to this week's show on my ipod (excellent interview, btw, my favourite so far). I was walking through town. You were eating ice-cream. You were smacking your lips. You said how delicious it tasted. I could almost taste it too. I was passing a supermarket. I went inside... the next half-hour is a blur and the next thing I remember is coming home clutching a tub of Blackberry Crumble Golden Whip.
My question is this: will you start every show with a pleasant activity that the spineless and easily-led amongst your listening audience can copy?
My suggestion for next week; Carving a ham.
Many thanks. Yours in hope...
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Sir. Finally, some well-earned respect around this dump....
It's a bit hot for ham. Maybe I can carve a spam? But then you'd have to go buy spam. And then eat it. I won't do that to you.
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I won't leave you hanging. Are you really that interested or are you just saying that? The next post I will try to explain some of my reasons.
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I am interested! You're only the 4th person I know of who speculates this way. Reagan Lee & Jean Eisenhower being two and the 4th I'm not sure is public with his story so I won't say the name--but I will have him on the show soon. He grew up on Andrews Air Force base so if anyone's been used and abused, he's a good candidate.
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Ally, you've mentioned having type 1 diabetes "at the time." No longer? Or am I just looking at it incorrectly?
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CC
I had a kindey/pancreas transplant in 1997 so I am no longer diabetic. You didn't read that wrong.
Jeremy,
OK it seems that people(not people who already know me) seem interested and then just don't communicate after I start getting into my story.
I am not sure where to start and there is really I mean really a lot of weird things to cover.
I will start with why I think I was part of a govt experiment. When I was around age 20 I was going to College and like most College kids I would drink too much. If I got really drunk I would start reliving what seemed like being tortured of something.This could last for hours and usually some unfortunate college kid that just wanted to get laid would be in over his head. I started seeing a different therapist than when I was in my teens. Talking and hypnosis wasn't getting anywhere so I asked him if there was anything stronger to break through to the memories. He said yes and put me in a hospital setting and gave me a drug I think it was called sodium amatol (sp?) aka truth serum.
I am not sure how many hours of screaming went on for this session only to get nowhere at least in the session. He said when I became lucid that you were traumatized and whoever did this to you knew what they were doing and made sure you would never remember.
After that session memories did come back. This was around 1986 and I had not heard of the alien abduction phenomena yet.
What I remembered was being drugged, shocked and sexually abused in a hospital setting by several doctors. I did not really believe that this was real and the memories kept getting weirder. Long story short I packed up one day and left College and wanted to leave the country.Things got just a tad messy in Arizona OK way too long of a story maybe someday.
Eventually I ended up in Seattle for no particular reason. I found out recently by my mom that from the age of 11-13 I would daily and for hours sing one particular song. She knows it very very well. That song was the theme song to a tv show called Here Comes the Brides. The song is all about Seattle. I have no memory of singing this or the song at all. I remember songs quite well way before age eleven. I could play a song or two on the piano when I was two years old by ear. I am a music addict.
Just in case anyone is wondering at this point I do not have multiple personalities.
I found out last year that my doctor who delivered me and was doctor until I was eleven was part of the Manhattan project.The small town I was born in is let's just say interesting. I made two trips over there last year. It was also quite obvious from these trips that my memory has been tampered with.
Let me post this much for now. I have other reasons not mentioned above as to why I think I was part of an experiment. I have not organized all this in my head yet. I probably sound scattered.
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Let me add just one more quick note. I saw the late Dr John Mack back in 2002. He thought the most severe traumas were human induced.
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Was Mack specific in what he meant? Did he mean organized military experiments or everyday people trauma?
Also, how did you find out your doctor was on the Manhattan Project? Did you ever confront him?
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Dr Mack wasn't specific.
Mt parents wre visiting the small town where I was born in June of 2007. My dad calls me up to chit chat and said that two of the doctors that used to work for him were in a nursing home with Alzheimer's. He then said that Dr K kept talking about having been to the moon. I said he probably has and my dad thought that was funny.
The next day my mother calls up and said by the way I heard Dr K was part of the ManHattan project.
I managed to track down one of Dr K sons. The son had quite an interest in the UFO field. We became friends when I visited in August. I did not confront the Dr but talked and listened. I did ask the Dr if he took part in any medical experiments and he said not that I am aware of. At that point the son got very nervous so I backed off.
The doctor also said some other things that seemed interesting.I have a thread on the paracast where I get into some aspects of my trips to my home town.
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Where is your edit botton ha ha. I was just looking at my typos.
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Good banter between you two, kinda fun to listen to.
I'm no way an expert in this transcendental stuff, but I have studied Eastern religions in the past and Death of the Ego is the goal in attaining Nirvana or Godhead or Heaven, whatever tag one puts to it is all the same.
Fear of death is a natural thing in corporeal creatures like us, be it ego or the body.
The trick is letting the ego die while the body still lives. And human minds equate one with the other.
I can't do it, the fear is too great. Good luck to those who can get past the fear.
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I thought I'd have a lot to say about the death of self and the nothingness/everything experience, which I've had only a few times in my life.
Most of it has already been said above. Nowadays my responsibilities to my family keep me tethered in everyday life and I've found that since I've taken on that new relationship, complete death of self is beyond my reach. The result has been a kind of limbo like effect. I still operate with the awareness that my 'self' is, if anything, a miniscule fraction of what I am, however.
That, coupled with the fact that I can freely discuss these things with my girlfriend keep me sane.
On a humorous note, I once tried to explain the death of self to a philosophy professor, and all he got out of it was that I was a nihilist! At the time, I was insulted, but now I just think its hilarious.
One thing is for sure, words only serve to confuse, and one has to look much deeper to really find anything.
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Jeremy,
When you had your big I AM experience did you get the sence you could pop into anybody's consciounsess or reality and expereience/become that person?
I had an old boyfried that had a NDE. During that experience he was told that he could live/become my experience if he wanted to. Since I didn't have the experience myself I just assumed he meant that people who live or have lived can be accessed, kind of like deciding what movie to watch. OK I have gone over my Oneness quota for the day
Just joking.
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No. Mine was an experience of how/why everything exists in the first place from the point of view of Creation itself (which includes all other points of view. However, I didn't see/experience people. This was prior to people.)
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Jeremy,
I don't think you are getting some of my emails. Some of you questions indicate that.
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I truly enjoyed your interview with Mr. Steinfeld--though I have to insist that, I'm not "into" that New Agey stuff. At least not anymore. So many of the New Age gurus of the past twenty-plus years have fizzled--the referenced J. Z. Knight being a big example.
(Full disclosure: I will, uh, admit to being a sort of student of Seth / Jane Roberts, and have been for twenty-plus years.)
Still, Alan Steinfeld is someone whose level-headedness and objectivity I can respect. Of all the people you have interviewed, he has come the closest to verbally framing the ET-slash-encounter question in a way that will bear the most fruitful discovery: that we are attempting to physically perceive, with our physical senses and our physical instruments, essences and events that originate mostly outside the physical dimension that we are conditioned to perceive. If we accept this simple premise, we can begin to explore its true nature.
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