Culture of Contact Episode 57: Tiokasin Ghosthorse & The Lakota Perspective
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Lakota activist & musician Tiokasin Ghosthorse stops by to give us his perspective on beings we perhaps wrongly call aliens.
Unfortunately, Jeremy's dialogue track erased itself while saving the project so his part of the conversation has been reconstructed from memory
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Lakota activist & musician Tiokasin Ghosthorse stops by to give us his perspective on beings we perhaps wrongly call aliens.
Unfortunately, Jeremy's dialogue track erased itself while saving the project so his part of the conversation has been reconstructed from memory
Jeremy - You need to do a podcast each month as Greer. Classic stuff
Your guest was very insightful. Do you know if his radio shoe is simulcast on the Net?
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Jeremy
In view of this latest lapse, screw-up,
mistake, etc., etc.. , - we're letting you go. That's two (2) weeks notice.
The grey aliens ( as you know ) do not provide unemploymnent insurance.
Where's George Schnoory when you need him?
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If only I could afford a team of producers....
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But you know - we love you nonetheless! -
and maybe even more for these f-ups.
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Hmmm, Ill definitely have to listen to this again I think. Once just isnt enough to let everything sink in.
I did find his somewhat vague and decidedly abstract responses frustrating. But I guess thats to be expected. One thing though, he could have been clearer re: Roswell and crashed UFOs. What was his actual message in the end? That theyre technically advanced supposedly so it doesnt make sense? Im not sure if hes claiming that every single crashed UFO story in the history of this phenomenon is a hoax or what.
Anyway, will listen again.
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On vague and abstract responses....
Some of that is my fault for not fully remembering what exactly I said that he was responding to. Some of it might be that he wasn't certain what I was asking. But here's something else Bill Birnes told me: Indigenous people have an oral history and so it is of the utmost importance that that history not be warped or misinterpreted in the telling. That's why they have storytellers (wrongly called "medicine men;" partially correctly called "shaman.")
So telling the story is the responsibility of the storyteller alone. Tiokasin is not a storyteller, therefore he is limited in what he can reveal. I think by him saying that at a future date he will be allowed to reveal information means he is on his way to becoming one.
This finally made sense of something Melissa Reed told me about the 1st Star Nations gathering in the 90's: The elders told the outsiders that they were not to write about anything they were told or witnessed in books, etc. Why not?--because only the storyteller can tell the story unperturbed.
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lol Dude you actually did a good job of acting a few of those questions.
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The earth... is a star... okaaaaay...
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Yeah I was similarly perplexed.
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Don't get too bogged down in that. They call "North America" "Turtle Island." Really? An island?--Of turtles?!
So it's just descriptive words. You know he's talking about Earth, that great jewel in the sky. Jewel? Sky? Whaa--?!
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Actually, I do get it, it goes back to earlier statements I made about the similarities between oriental and native language structure (supporting the notion of shared ancestry and not magical star travel). In japanese the word HOSHI means both star and planet.
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Capn, are you saying you reject the notion that the Lakota may have come from off-planet?
Just curious.
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Yes, I do. I don't see how it bears any more credence than any other creation myth.
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You're wrong whitey!
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I've been listening to this podcast today and am really enjoying it. When I was in junior high we had a Chereoke chief give a talk for our history class and I remember much of what he said was pretty out there to most of the kids but some how it all really resonated and made an impression on me. Very interesting and probably ultimately a more accurate world view.
I would be interested to hear other ancient indigenous cultures take on the UFO phenomena.
This is totally 'Out There' speculation, but in the Edgar Caycie readings on Atlantis he says that some Native American tribes (as well as Egyptian, mayan and I think Asian) were the descendants of the ancient sea faring atlantis people who migrated over a few thousands years to these different continents at various times after repeated catastrophies wiped out their land.
If I had the time and motivation and could get paid for it, I would love to compare commonalities between these alleged Cayce atlantis descendents to see if they have anything in common (other than pyraminds
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